Departure from Estoul m 1880 by own means, ascent along the wild valleys of Palasinaz shaped by the glaciers until you reach the lakes at m 2451. From here you climb up to the collar below the Punta Valnera and then begin the descent to the Arp refuge to complete the loop route.this hike includes packed lunch.info and reservations Alpine Guides of Ayas - info@guidechampoluc.com Tel. 346 244 1219